tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131752062373879019.post4352978783497754853..comments2023-09-16T04:22:00.536-07:00Comments on Road of life: Mahabharata/Jaya - Draupadi Vastraharan (Disrobing)Abhinesh Warrierhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11448424207235520057noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131752062373879019.post-42953631438159762342014-06-15T11:01:17.583-07:002014-06-15T11:01:17.583-07:00Bhishma is a hypocrite and shameless elder. Pandav...Bhishma is a hypocrite and shameless elder. Pandavas are at the worst servants of Duryodhana and not slaves.Even african slaves purchased by Americans and Europians were never put to such shame. Bhishma should be stupid to think that Draupadi can be disrobed or treated in any way.(she can be even raped in the court? If Bhishma is duty bound to save hastinapur, he can fight for Kauravas in war. What logic is that which says he has to codone the crimes of Dhuryodhana.<br />Either in those days there was no civilisedrule, they are all uncivilised jungle tribe<br />These anamolies occur because they developed a story told by nomadic tribes into a great epic. at amuch later date.Real dharma lies in upholding the dignity of a woman.Unfortunately comentators try to justify the most heinous silence of Bhishma. he is a shame on India.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131752062373879019.post-46171147190380883332014-06-02T19:21:39.292-07:002014-06-02T19:21:39.292-07:00bhishma and drona et alare a blot on our culture....bhishma and drona et alare a blot on our culture. How could Bhishma be a silent spectator to the disrobing incident. He must be a crook.To defend Hastinapur is one thing and to admonish wrong doers is another Bhishma hides behind his vow to protect Hastnapur. were pandavas taken as slaves or just bonded labourers?<br />There is no no paralell to the silence of the worst crime by all saintly(?) people like bhishma. They should be hangedD G Ramaraohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11726006809609037435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131752062373879019.post-10790682745283563102014-05-18T00:20:19.402-07:002014-05-18T00:20:19.402-07:00Mahabharata is Epic episode of world, crossing the...Mahabharata is Epic episode of world, crossing the barrier of cast,creed,country etc. It has definite relevance even to present day social structure. Mahabharata should be interpreted in the light of the "spirit" of it ,and not in literally meaning. For example 'ten' head of Ravana does not mean Ravana having 'ten 'heads over his neck , but he possess 'wisdom' of ten heads , that is profound knowledge.<br /> Draupadi having five husband synonym the virtues of husband she desires equivalent to all five.<br /> Secondly legalising five husband to most virtuous woman indicate the polyandry is not a taboo in liberal society, where Male are allowed to have number of concubine (Digvijay Singh, N D Tiwari & Co)<br /> Draupadi is epitome womanhood ,bold , strong , virtuous ,insatiable, paragon of dark skinned beauty, possibly most desired woman of the Universe . The carnal desire for Her has burned all Maharathis of Mahabharata ,including Karan, symbolic of Social upstart .<br /> My only appeal that present day youth should read this Great Epic in right perspective as it has tremendous relevance to Modern SocietyAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06517940283139293814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131752062373879019.post-73814457690123259592014-01-31T09:07:28.076-08:002014-01-31T09:07:28.076-08:00Bhishma didnt say nethng cz he knew dat only aftr ...Bhishma didnt say nethng cz he knew dat only aftr draupadi's bstraharn , the war wuld take plce n the kauravas wuld finally b defeatd. Draupadi was born to b d main cause of d kurukshetra war.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131752062373879019.post-65403424862757395912014-01-24T03:53:03.490-08:002014-01-24T03:53:03.490-08:00The epic leaves us with a big Why too. I don't...The epic leaves us with a big Why too. I don't have any answer though I would believe the there is an answer hidden in "Dharma is subtle". Maybe he knew something about the past or future based on which he decided inaction is the best response. Who knows? Not me for sure. Abhinesh Warrierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11448424207235520057noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131752062373879019.post-74277304292640049412013-12-11T03:19:28.418-08:002013-12-11T03:19:28.418-08:00Please tell in what way the bhishma pitamaha silen...Please tell in what way the bhishma pitamaha silence was dharma?. I personally respect Bhishmacharya. After the Mahabharata war he understood that Dharma is to protect Motherland and helpless woman is it? even a maid or any other woman can not be treated like that. Pitamaha had all the rights and power to stop it. please answer this sir. But once I heard because of his one of the vow to serve the Hastinapur throne made him be silent. But why ?SIDDARAM S Ihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00527665980984679569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131752062373879019.post-35571525897732799202013-04-02T01:23:59.740-07:002013-04-02T01:23:59.740-07:00Well,, before making hideous comments on Draupadi&...Well,, before making hideous comments on Draupadi's sex appetite, you should take into consideration the earlier life of Draupadi, and Draupadi is incarnation of Indra's wife Indrani, and all 5 Pandavas are incarnation if Indra himself although fathered by differ rent demigods, its Indra himself born in 5 different bodies.<br /><br />Also one should take into account, Draupadi in her previous life had received blessing from lord Shiva to get ‘Mahapratapi’ or a great hasbund, however while asking this boon Draupadi repeated her words five times.<br />So she gets what she asked for.<br /><br />One should also think on the rules laid down by Maharshi Narad on the married life of Pandavas. Although Draupadi was wife of 5 husbands, it doesn’t reflect any high sex appetite. The rules were so strict that breaking just one of them caused Arjuna to go to vanwaas(living in forest ) for twelve long years.<br /><br />If Draupadi had very high sex appetite, she could have married to Kauravas instead of Pandavas, because Kauravas were 100 while Pandavas were just 5.<br />So the sex appetite comment is totally nonsense in this case.<br /><br />Furthermore, one should do research on Draupadi is one of the 5 great Pativratas listed in the Hindu religion (Ahilya, Sita, Taara, Mandodhari and Draupadi)<br /><br />One should do some research and understand the meaning between the lines before commenting on the any characters of Great Hindu history.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131752062373879019.post-22590040723317862212012-03-03T19:49:50.388-08:002012-03-03T19:49:50.388-08:00@ Amitabh, Hi... I have read a few version but not...@ Amitabh, Hi... I have read a few version but not come across this. That was a nice insight - thanks for that. Now I am reading Bibek Debroy's unabridged translation so when he publishes this parva, I might read it :-). Also, do you know if Ganguli's English translation is available. Flipkart does not have it all. So that I dont have to wait for Bibek's to get published.Abhinesh Warrierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11448424207235520057noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131752062373879019.post-71731881523202285372012-03-02T12:11:54.390-08:002012-03-02T12:11:54.390-08:00After the mahabharata war was over and Pandavas we...After the mahabharata war was over and Pandavas were visiting Bhishma who was on his death bed of arrows, Yudhishthir asked Bhishma to give pandavas lecture of dharma. At this, Draupadi laughed. When asked, she questioned Bhishma about his silence in the court when Draupadi was being disrobed, and therefore, how can he talk of dharma.. At this Bhishma answered, this was the result of the food (one's earnings) that was gained from unrighteous sources and therefore it has fogged their minds so they could not differentiated between dharma or adharma but now as even the last drop of his blood has gone, he is able to see what is right and what is wrong.Amitabh Pandeyhttp://www.thecapitalpoint.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131752062373879019.post-66626650550813295172012-02-17T20:47:14.668-08:002012-02-17T20:47:14.668-08:00I have read, throw of dice indicates free will whi...I have read, throw of dice indicates free will while the movement of coins on the board indicate destiny/fate :-). Have updated it as well.Abhinesh Warrierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11448424207235520057noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131752062373879019.post-11800658152203590532012-02-17T16:46:10.495-08:002012-02-17T16:46:10.495-08:00Could you please finish this sentence: I have read...Could you please finish this sentence: I have read, throw of dice indicates free will while the movement of coins on the board indicate _________. I'm very curious to know. Thank you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131752062373879019.post-11083704157182337102012-01-08T15:07:35.230-08:002012-01-08T15:07:35.230-08:00Bhisma silence was due to his own oath (after givi...Bhisma silence was due to his own oath (after giving up Hastinapur kingdom in favor his step mother's progeny) to protect and side with the Hastinapur kingdom whosoever is the ruler, good or bad. <br />Legally he has no right to intervene. Dhritarashtra being the king has a right to stop Draupadi's vastraparan or any court proceeding. But, as evident throughout Mahabharata, he is so biased towards his own sons.DivineInterventionnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131752062373879019.post-85804078094968905502011-12-01T21:31:18.021-08:002011-12-01T21:31:18.021-08:00Nicely said Abhi Etta... i liked the idea of Bhish...Nicely said Abhi Etta... i liked the idea of Bhishma being a non-participant... so in a way he is like Balarama and yet not completely like him... karna's traumatizing childhood and insults were well known... Yuddhistira's out look you mentioned is worthy... but he too knew that Duryodhana will never leave him in peace... so who knows... <br /><br />As for draupadi's being shared.. it is really fishy...Abhinesh Warrierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11448424207235520057noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9131752062373879019.post-90946664141242534032011-12-01T21:23:14.031-08:002011-12-01T21:23:14.031-08:00Hmmm... good question to ponder over... I love you...Hmmm... good question to ponder over... I love your questions and takes. <br /><br />Bhishma, as a character, just like Karna intrigued me. Bhishma, I felt was always acting as a witness. He never participated in any action as a karta, I feel. <br /><br />Therefore, later in the war too, he was the commander-in-chief as a witness but not as a karta. He was like... I know what is going to happen and am just a pawn. Let the game begin and end as per His leela! <br /><br />Karna, on the other hand, was a perfect man. One who would stand by his friend, would always protect his wife, his kingdom and was always generous. <br /><br />His only folly was that he was traumatized by his upbringing (right from childhood) and that destroyed his inner peace. Like I remember seeing the movie, Ray, where he was traumatized from his childhood because he thought that he was responsible for his bro's death.<br /><br />As per code of Dharma, Draupadi agreeing to be shared between five bros was incorrect. Being such a strong woman, she would/could/should surely have protested then when Kunti told the bros to share her. <br /><br />I mean, she loved only Arjuna but was ok with sleeping with all five of them! :-) I think, she had an overdose of sexual appetite and with some women, they just have that lusty effect on men. I can't explain that. But hope you get it. And any mother would realize the folly of her sweeping statement of sharing her amongst five bros... and would have immediately taken back her wish/command. <br /><br />So lot of fishy stuff... If Draupadi was only Arjuna's wife, Yudhisthira wouldn't have staked her... Bhishma would have thought that this is Law of Karma playing out through a game of dice...abhilash warrierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13676672819691640600noreply@blogger.com